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Post by Myangelcanfly on Aug 28, 2015 9:35:41 GMT -5
After having jessie's wings clipped she seems very clumsy.... is this normal?
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Post by easttex on Aug 28, 2015 11:45:01 GMT -5
If it was done unevenly or too severely, yes.
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Post by aaron on Aug 28, 2015 12:41:51 GMT -5
We only had our QP clipped once, and she went straight into the floor and cracked her beak open because the vet clipped her too severely. It's definitely feasible to cause problems this way.
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Post by bruce on Aug 28, 2015 13:28:36 GMT -5
I have refused wing clipping in my 25+ yo QP Chuckie. He is slowly regaining strength after years of being on a poor diet of seeds that my mother used. He can make controlled landings to the floor if he chooses to jump off his house/table. The last time his wings were clipped the landings were very severe. I know a lot a people advise wing clipping, I am not convinced a well socialized QP in a secure environment needs it. The problem is how secure is their area - i.e. no other pets having access until acquainted, no fans, no power cords, constant supervision. An absolute must if the wings are clipped is that the last two to three flight feathers are left intact so the bird can glide/control their descent. If those were clipped, it is no surprise Jessie is struggling.
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Post by aaron on Aug 28, 2015 19:45:06 GMT -5
We love having Cupcake flighted, but it definitely presents additional dangers, and I don't blame anyone for clipping if they feel that is what is best for their scenario. There's definitely valid points on both sides of that debate.
If Cupcake wanted to misbehave and get into things all the time, her being flighted would honestly be (and has been) a real pain for us, but she has generally learned to use her ability to fly for functional purposes and she goes out of her way to follow us and be with us whereever we are in the home. It's a rare occasion for her to break off and try to get into something while we are distracted. Obviously we are still trained to always keep track of where she is at all times, but she generally makes it very easy. It was not always like this, however. For the first couple of years we were constantly chasing her all over the place. But, as it stands I really appreciate her autonomy.
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Post by julianna on Aug 29, 2015 13:29:44 GMT -5
It is almost time to clip Oscar's wings and it is making me nervous. I love that he does not fly as it has so many advantages that suit us. I have watched videos and have been shown "hands on" but being my first time I am nervous a little. I also have read many books on how this is done properly so I am sure I won't mess up.
After loosing all of his clipped feathers the new ones are coming in and probably in a month or so... it will be time. Oscar has not flown since childhood so he has adapted quite well to his situation. Besides... he has me to carry him from room to room and has lots of freedom and I never worry about him getting hurt.
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Post by gameoldbird on Sept 23, 2015 10:05:10 GMT -5
This thread is just what I was looking for. I'm glad there isn't a general consensus of opinion that wings should be clipped as I really don't want to stop Otis from flying. He loves to fly out to the kitchen and find me only to land on my head or a nearby cupboard! He doesn't go near any windows and will normally fly down from places and land on you when he's called. Therefore, his wings will remain unclipped We NEVER leave windows and doors open for him and everybody in the house knows to close external doors before entering other rooms as Otis is likely to be out. My question then is this - is there any advantage to having him 'ringed'? If the worst did happen, how likely is it that he would be found before anything awful happened to him? Are they comfortable for them and what danger is of them getting caught on things and injuring the bird? Any advice and comments would be extremely helpful - thank you
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Post by easttex on Sept 23, 2015 13:21:54 GMT -5
One of the things I've learned from reading this site is that a surprising number of escaped Quakers do manage to find their way to a kind person. I think most people try to find the owners, and a band could certainly help. Most of them provide only breeder information, at best, and they're not all helpful.
Of course it's too late for a closed band, and an open band would have to be the right size and closed very carefully to ensure no gaps. There are possible hazards with them, but I don't personally know anyone whose bird was actually injured from wearing one. Someone else here might. You'd want to be vigilant about things like frayed cotton rope toys, loose threads, etc., but you need to watch out for those anyway. I'd also look closely for any sign of irritation. If the leg starts to swell for any reason, it could become a real problem.
One question is, how would Otis feel about it? The older they get, the less likely they are to want to accept new things.
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Post by julianna on Sept 23, 2015 13:58:50 GMT -5
Well... today I finally got my nerve up enough to clip Oscar's wings. Three times he has flown long distances and the last time he almost crashed into the living room window. I re-watched the videos and clipped only a little off 3 feathers... just the tips. He did not like me doing this at all however, once it was over and I was cuddling him... all was well. I certainly do not want him hurt in any way and when I read about them possibly landing on the stove... that was it. I had to do it.
Remember Oscar has been clipped most of his life and with me... there is nothing he is lacking. He goes everywhere in the house with me. He has me trained extremely well. lol Today I am a very proud Mom.
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Post by biteybird on Sept 24, 2015 1:23:52 GMT -5
My question then is this - is there any advantage to having him 'ringed'? If the worst did happen, how likely is it that he would be found before anything awful happened to him? Are they comfortable for them and what danger is of them getting caught on things and injuring the bird? Any advice and comments would be extremely helpful - thank you
Hi again, I think there were some threads about 'banding' a few months back - you could do a keyword search to find them, perhaps. If I find them, I'll be back to Edit this with the info.
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Post by gameoldbird on Sept 24, 2015 1:45:30 GMT -5
Thanks biteybird!
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Post by sandee on Sept 26, 2015 13:32:33 GMT -5
After having jessie's wings clipped she seems very clumsy.... is this normal? My Gordon was clumsy in general for his first few months. I got him at 4 months old, and he would fall off my finger if I moved with him. He grew out of it in a few months. ~Sandee~
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Post by julianna on Sept 26, 2015 16:41:08 GMT -5
Hmmmm....falling off the finger if you moved with him... does not sound like a problem with wing clipping. I could be wrong but I think it is more of just being immature and needing time to adjust to holding your finger. Hope that is all it is sandee. Good to know he grew out of it.
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Post by msviv48 on Oct 18, 2015 21:36:56 GMT -5
I keep Julie clipped since we live in a camper. We have one door and some big mirrors on the closet doors in the bedroom. As her flight feathers grow and and she starts flying she goes to the bedroom. I was afraid that she would crash into it but each time gets softer, she had learned she can't continue. My friend that I got her from does the clipping and does it just right so that she can glide to the floor if she takes a notion. I just have to be careful that the dogs leave her alone.
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Post by aaron on Oct 20, 2015 8:55:15 GMT -5
We put scarves in front of mirrors in the house to help Cupcake remember that she can't fly through them... but at this point she knows all of the mirrors and windows and never flies into them. She had a couple light scuffles with them initially, but it did not take long for her to figure it out.
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