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Post by nuguy on Apr 28, 2015 18:33:24 GMT -5
Hi folks,
I'm new here (and more or less new to Quakers) and have a few questions about breeding Quaker Parrots. Can anyone tell me if it is impossible or inadvisable to breed two red-eyed Quakers - I have been told this by one person, but cannot confirm it.
Also, do red-eye Quakers actually have visibly red eyes or is this just a descriptive term with some other meaning. I ask this because I was shown two Quakers that were referred to as red-eyed but both appeared to have black eyes.
Thank you to anyone who can answer these questions as I am new to breeding and will probably have a hundred more. |
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Post by easttex on Apr 29, 2015 5:11:44 GMT -5
Hi nuguy, I'm afraid I can't help you, but I hate to see a post without a response.  I think it's fair to say that all of the current regular participants are parrot companions, and only occasionally does someone who breeds them pop in. |
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Post by Sharyn and Mr P on Apr 29, 2015 8:16:06 GMT -5
I don't want to offend anyone, but as a foster for a rescue, I see so many unwanted, relinquished birds. I would say about 90% of them just need a family who has time to spend with them, most do NOT have behavior problems that can't be worked thru. Having said that, is there a specific reason you want to breed quakers? Again, I am not wanting to judge, offend or critique, I am just curious. Dani, if I opened a can of worms with this post, just go ahead and delete it |
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Post by nuguy on Apr 29, 2015 10:34:25 GMT -5
Easttex and Sharyn... thank you for your replies - I thought this particular forum would be frequented by breeders.
Sharyn...I do understand your concern as I own a rescue dog (a former breeder from a puppy mill) that I purchased at considerable cost, a dog that was moved from place to place because she cannot be house trained, and most "fosters" and "rescuers", it seems, want only perfect animals. This dog, it appears, spent most of its life in a barn and while it will never be fully house-trained, it has learned mostly on its own with a bit help, to use the equivalent of a litter box, and is the sweetest most gentle and loving pet anyone could hope for. The people who didn't want her are, by far, the losers. But I'm off topic.
My reason for asking breeding questions in a breeding forum is to ensure that, should I decide to breed Quakers, I do not breed animals that no one wants. These intelligent, gregarious little animals make wonderful loving pets, and everyone who owns and loves their Quaker got it from a breeder at some point in the chain. It is only unfortunate that some breeders and many pet owners are not very scrupulous.
Again, thank you both for your replies. If I am in the wrong forum, or on the wrong website, perhaps a moderator or other person can direct me to a more appropriate site. Thank you.
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Post by easttex on Apr 29, 2015 11:19:44 GMT -5
I can't speak for the moderator, but I don't think there is anything wrong with posting breeding questions here. I just wanted you to know why you might be waiting a good while for answers to your questions. I hate it when I post somewhere and never get any response at all. If you post a behavior or health question, it's likely to get quite a few responses. Or you might be able to respond to some of the questioners. |
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Post by Sharyn and Mr P on Apr 29, 2015 12:10:51 GMT -5
It is only unfortunate that some breeders and many pet owners are not very scrupulous. Isn't that the truth! Thank you for your response. |
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Post by msdani1981 on Apr 29, 2015 13:55:24 GMT -5
No open cans of worms here! Welcome to the forum, nuguy! |
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Post by msdani1981 on Apr 29, 2015 13:59:45 GMT -5
I don't know anything about breeding, I'm sorry! I can try to find some answers for you, though! |
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Post by nuguy on Apr 29, 2015 14:01:10 GMT -5
Thanks again folks for your replies.
The heading I clicked on was titled "Breeding Quakers", but it does not surprise me to find no breeders here. I would not expect most pet owners to know the answers to breeding questions, any more than do I, but I cannot get replies to the same questions even from bird breeder/vendors with whom I might do business and this, I believe, is because they do not know the answers.
Unfortunately, so far, I've found the bird breeding business to be rife with urban legend (a polite term for bull dung) with each person making up stories to suit their own venue as they go along. In spite of this, many are providing wonderful pets to those who want them.
In any case, my hope is that this "Breeding Quakers" forum will attract at least a couple of knowledgeable people who can enlighten me and others so that we can improve the breeding situation, or at least avoid producing unfortunate birds that nobody wants.
My original question about "redeyes" was prompted by an almost comical situation where I was shown a pair of supposed red-eyed birds that, to my vision, had distinctly black eyes. This was explained away by the breeder saying they would have red eyes in a photograph. I tried not to choke (the breeder).
Having said that, does anyone out there have a "redeye" Quaker, and does it in fact have visibly red eyes??
Thanks again to all who reply. |
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Post by Sharyn and Mr P on Apr 29, 2015 14:05:39 GMT -5
Heck, *I* have red eyes in some photographs and my eyes are NOT red in real life..well..ok..maybe occassionally on a Sunday morning they are One thing might be worth a shot, I don't know if you use Facebook or not, but you may be able to do a search for quaker parrot breeders there and actually find what you are looking for. Having said that, and as you seem to be finding out, take EVERYTHING you read on Facebook (and on the internet in general) with a grain of salt! |
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Post by Sharyn and Mr P on Apr 29, 2015 14:08:34 GMT -5
See if this sheds any light on the matter? It's a breeder chat www.upatsix.com/chats/breeder-chat/topic77693.htmlAccording to what I'm reading, the "red eye" signify a "split" to cinnamon. There seems to be some question though as to whether both males and females can carry the "cinnamon" gene as I am reading it's gender based (sort of like color blindness in men) however no one really seems to know any of the answers May the force be with you |
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Post by nuguy on Apr 29, 2015 14:19:47 GMT -5
Thank you msdani, any information will be appreciated.
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Post by nuguy on Apr 29, 2015 14:23:46 GMT -5
Thanks Sharyn, I'll check that out.
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Post by nuguy on Apr 29, 2015 14:51:14 GMT -5
Sharyn, the link you provided appears to be what I am looking for despite the somewhat confusing answers. I'll post my questions there and wade through the gobbledygook until I can find three people that agree on something. I'll also continue to check back here in case others have suggestions. Thank you so much.
In any case, it appears so far that "redeye" birds actually have red eyes, meaning my anecdotal "redeyes" above are either not redeyes or I am hopelessly colour blind. |
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Post by nuguy on Apr 29, 2015 14:51:45 GMT -5
Sharyn, the link you provided appears to be what I am looking for despite the somewhat confusing answers. I'll post my questions there and wade through the gobbledygook until I can find three people that agree on something. I'll also continue to check back here in case others have suggestions. Thank you so much.
In any case, it appears, so far, that "redeye" birds actually have red eyes, meaning my anecdotal "redeyes" above are either not redeyes or I am hopelessly colour blind. |
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