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Post by maloneerin on Apr 14, 2015 11:32:36 GMT -5
My Larry has lost some weight. He also plucked himself after trying to mate with my blue. I believe he has stopped plucking, because there are no feathers in the bottom of the cage. But, he doesn't seem to be growing new ones very quick. He didnt pluck himself bald, just to the down fuzzies. I have separated them. I think he is so bummed out that he wont eat much. I have tried to mix his pellets with the other mixture of seeds and fruits. What I do? I can feel his breast bone. : ( I have given him a lot of attention to feel loved, but I think he is depressed about being separated from Blue. How can I get him to eat and put on weight? Any suggestions would be appreciated - Thanks
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Post by aaron on Apr 14, 2015 11:44:01 GMT -5
You may very well be right that he is depressed, in which case it will probably take some time to pass... In the meantime, are there any treats that he loves that you could provide Larry that might stimulate his appetite? Continuing to give him lots of attention is good, even if it may not seem to be helping. I am not very well versed with situations involving more than one bird, but I am sure the others can provide more advice on how to handle the separation and ways to improve his mood.
Not fun, but I would recommend taking Larry to an avian vet just to make sure that there are not any acute health concerns behind his lack of appetite and plucking, because this is certainly possible. I do agree that it seems likely that it is an emotional issue, but it is a good idea to cover all your bases in this kind of situation.
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Post by maloneerin on Apr 14, 2015 12:04:18 GMT -5
Thank you, Aaron. He likes to eat random things from my dinner plate, like eggs and noodles. I am hoping that this will pass. He seems to enjoy being around me every where I go in the house. But, just wont eat like he did. He used to eat everything in sight! He liked Nutri-berries, but didnt eat many. I hope there isnt anything wrong with him. I will take him to the avian vet if he doesnt plump up. Thanks again, Erin - Larry's mamma
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Post by easttex on Apr 14, 2015 12:51:03 GMT -5
Hi Erin. If that was my bird, and I could feel that his keel was much more prominent than before, I would not wait on getting him to a vet. Birds are very adept at hiding illness.
Do you have a record of his weight? Even if the problem is emotional and not due to physical causes, if he is truly losing significant weight, I think you need some expert help.
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Post by aaron on Apr 14, 2015 12:59:09 GMT -5
Glad to help!
I'm inclined to agree with easttex that waiting to go to the vet is probably not the best move. Better to go and rule out any problems-- as bird owners, sometimes all we get are these little warning signs, and then next thing you know, things have escalated to a point of undesirable, or worse, irreparable severity.
I think there's a good chance it is an emotional issue, but I can assure you, like Easttex, if this were my bird we would be at the vet in a heartbeat... weight loss and plucking are too serious of symptoms to be making any guesses about the potential cause. And preventative and precautionary measures are really the name of the game when it comes to keeping our fids healthy in the long term.
I guess the only thing I would ask of others that read this thread that might know -- is there a way to reunite the two birds in a supervised manner that might ease some of the depression (not in lieu of a vet visit, of course)? Obviously not let them mate, but perhaps they could hang out? Or is that a bad idea in this kind of situation? This is not my area of expertise.
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Post by maloneerin on Apr 14, 2015 14:28:48 GMT -5
I have had the two together for a short period at a time. They instantly start over preening each other. Even in separate cages next to each other, they pulled there own feathers out. They both get pretty hostile towards me, too. Separately, both are very sweet. I will set an appointment with the vet. I am very concerned. : (
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Post by aaron on Apr 14, 2015 15:50:32 GMT -5
Hmmm... sounds like a pretty challenging situation. I am interested to hear what a vet suggests. I wish I had better advice for you... it does sound like there is a lot of emotional stuff going on here... definitely puts you in a tough position. Assuming the vet confirms that there are no health issues at play here-- I think there is one school of thought that would basically say that these two have decided to become a bonded pair and there may be little you can do to prevent that short of separating them entirely, and they may not ever be happy that way, and of course it changes the dynamic of life with your birds that you are used to... So, given that, you could decide to let them be together and then immediately sterilize any eggs that are laid (making sure that your hen is properly nutritionally supplemented to support egg laying) and then put the sterilized eggs back so they can sit on them... This approach will definitely change your relationship with them as well, as they will focus on each other and not you... but a change in your relationship with them may be totally unavoidable at this point, unfortunately. Again, I have no experience that I am basing this on... just things I have read.
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Post by Jan and Shah on Apr 14, 2015 16:18:34 GMT -5
I can only speak from cockatiel experience. I tried to separate a male and female after they bonded (although it didnt look like it as they fought a lot of the time). I put them in separate cages but put the cages together so they could still see each other. It didnt work. When the female died, the male went into a deep depression and didnt eat for 3 days. I jollied him along by playing with him and tempting him with little morsels of food. He soon came good. However, if you can feel the keel bone, then a vet trip is in order just to make sure that he is okay. Good luck and let us know what happens.
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Post by maloneerin on Apr 15, 2015 9:54:53 GMT -5
Thank you for your ideas and responses. Last night I made Larry a plate of mac $ cheese, red leaf lettuce, cheese, and an apple pieces. He ate well. I was surprised that he ate so well. He also took a nice warm bath in the sink. I felt around on his chest bone, and he isn't as bad as I originally thought. I will still make an appointment, though. I am hoping that he will get out of his "love funk" - Blue is staying at a friends house for now. She seems happy with out him. (poor Larry- feels used) Can some one tell me how to insert a picture? I have clicked on the "insert image" icon, but I havent figured out how insert the picture from a http address. Any clues?
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Post by aaron on Apr 15, 2015 12:54:27 GMT -5
Glad to hear Larry has been eating better!
You have to upload your photos elsewhere (photobucket, facebook, etc...) and then link to them from here... This forum does not actually host images, but will display them if they are uploaded to other sites. For example, you can upload a photo to Facebook, then right click on it, say "Copy image URL", and then paste that into the link box that pops up when you insert an image on this forum. Let me know if that makes sense.
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Post by julianna on Apr 15, 2015 13:55:12 GMT -5
Also... there is a section on this forum if you look below the "introductions" tab... you will find one that says "how to"... and the instructions work quite well. I still need to refer to them from time to time.. no computer expert here.
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