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Post by luminescence on Nov 14, 2016 12:16:15 GMT -5
Dear readers,
I bought a beautiful blue Quaker parrot approximately a month ago and I'm having a lot of troubles with the little bird. My quaker was ten weeks old when I bought it, so I'd say it's about 14 weeks old now. I understood that it was very important for the bird to get used to its new environment and so I did. The bird was pretty much afraid of everything; sudden movements, loud noises and especially hands. A month later it got very well acquainted with its new owners(my family) and its new home. With a lot of patience and time invested, it was now possible to hand feed the bird and it would even step on my leg(after long consideration of the bird) to eat seeds out of my lap.
It seems that there has been a lot of progress since I brought the bird home. But still, the bird is really afraid of hands. It will eat out of my hand(each and every time with long consideration), but the bird will move away as quickly as possible when I reach out for it. Do you guys have any useful tips on how to make it less afraid of hands? I mean, it has been a month now and it seems like my approach(patience and just hand feeding it everyday) has reached a dead end. My breeder said that I could just grab the bird and it will get to used to hands that way. It seemed a bit radical to me as the bird seemed very stressed when he did so, but could this be a next step? Or is my approach better?
Kind regards, Marcel
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Post by aaron on Nov 14, 2016 15:48:06 GMT -5
While I haven't personally dealt with a situation like this, I would not recommend taking your breeder's advice to simply grab the bird. That kind of forceful tactic is likely to cause collateral damage in some way or another. Generally a bird at this age would not be fearful of hands, so sadly my thought is that it does seem like your breeder probably used techniques that reinforced a fear of hands, and you are now dealing with the fallout from that. It's not that desensitization techniques don't work, but they need to be done gradually and gently. Here are some articles with some ideas... And the others on the forum might have more detailed advice for you. petcha.com/pets/end-pet-bird-hand-fear/goodbirdinc.blogspot.com/2013/01/help-my-parrot-wont-step-up.htmlheckledbyparrots.com/blog/2009/03/hand-shy/Honestly, I think you are on the right track. Patience is key with parrots... You don't want to push things too much or you might end up taking steps backwards. Behavior modification often takes more than a month... so keep working at it. Good luck, and let us know how it goes!
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Post by timmah on Nov 14, 2016 20:01:46 GMT -5
I agree with Aaron - what we class as being patient is not always viewed the same by Parrots. Think of it this way. How long would it take us to get over being traumatized? Depending on the incident, months or years. with the occasional flashback after that. It sounds like its only been home a month - not really that long when you consider they can live for 20+ years.
and DO NOT just try to grab it. Apart from traumatizing the bird more, you'll may find it will begin to behave out of fear, rather than because its happy. Which will then lead to other destructive behaviors. Depending on the bird that could mean screeching, biting, over preening, not eating etc etc.
Your best bet? Continue to be patient and move at the birds pace. That will show it you can be trusted, because you won't be pushing it beyond what it feels comfortable with. Again, considering it will live for many years - the possibility of a couple of months gaining its trust shouldn't be too much of an issue!
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Post by biteybird on Nov 15, 2016 1:47:02 GMT -5
I agree with Aaron and Tim. Sadly, your bird's behaviour indicates his experience with human hands - prior to you bringing him home - has taught him to fear them. This might take a long time (by that I mean months, possibly) to turn around. Let the bird come to you when it's ready. If you try to force contact, whatever little trust the bird has in you will quickly disappear... Please ask any more questions you have and let us know how you go.
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Post by julianna on Nov 19, 2016 14:45:32 GMT -5
I have one suggestion. Instead of going straight forward toward your QP try making sure your hand is low with one finger pointed out (like a perch). Your hand should be lower than the bird. I would do this a few times a day while talking very softly. Once you are allowed to come close, instead of asking for "step up" in the forward motion, try bringing your hand behind the QP's feet and you might be surprised that it will step backward.
At any time my QP does not want to come to me... when I go from behind him...it is almost automatic that he will step up onto my finger.
These little guys will try your patience to no end... just don't give up. It will work eventually.
Best wishes.
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Post by biteybird on Nov 19, 2016 22:30:04 GMT -5
Your hand should be lower than the bird. I would do this a few times a day while talking very softly. Once you are allowed to come close, instead of asking for "step up" in the forward motion, try bringing your hand behind the QP's feet and you might be surprised that it will step backward. At any time my QP does not want to come to me... when I go from behind him...it is almost automatic that he will step up onto my finger. Wow, I've never thought of or heard of that! Good idea. I'll remember this for future reference (Bonnie can be stubborn at times... That's the great thing about being on this Forum - lots of suggestions by others.
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