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Post by oteyspeople on Oct 6, 2016 7:50:38 GMT -5
This post is primarily about our fecund little lovebird, but it concerns my aging quakers, too.
Lovey has now laid 29 eggs so far this year. This is her 5th clutch, & I'm really concerned about the nutritional toll on her body. She doesn't seem to be suffering any ill effects as of right now, but I want to prevent any complications. Despite her charming personality, we really would miss the little fishwife.
She's sharing a cage with her mate & his brother (it was THEIR cage until she moved in & took over). They're all happy on a tiel mix supplemented with some regular sunflower seeds. I just put another pineapple mineral block in the cage as they demolished the last one. Thinking of adding a cuttlebone, too, just for the calcium. Have never tried them on pellets--quakers wouldn't touch them.
The good news is they are bottle trained, so a water soluable vitamin is probably the best route. We basically have only Walmart, PetSmart & Petco as the only critter supply stores in our area--and I hate Walmart.
Best brand to use? I'm liking what I see with the Oasis brand from PetSmart. Suggestions very welcome.
Also, any suggestions on getting the quakers on the bottle, too? Otey has now passed 20 & I'd like to keep him around, too. If push comes to shove, I do have some powdered supplement I can try mixing in their morning oatmeal. Hopefully the butter, brown sugar & a little cream will disguise any taste. And no, I'm not kidding.
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Post by julianna on Oct 6, 2016 13:44:36 GMT -5
Well.. My opinion is that I would not use the water bottle. Quakers love to dunk their food to soften it and they would not be able to do this with the bottle.
I had love birds before and to lay 29 eggs in one year is too many. I would separate the female to give her body a break. When my female would have babies.. I always supplied her with boiled egg to get some of the nutrition back in her body that she was loosing. She loved it.
Most Quakers are lactose intolerant so I would not give them the cream. It may really upset his/her belly.
I know that Quakers are difficult to get them to eat pellets but somehow you must try. Put some in your mouth and make yummy sounds... then offer some to the Quaker and keep trying. You can also soak the pellets in sugar free apple juice or even water. Making them soft sometimes is more appealing to the little guy.
There are many good brands of pellets available on the computer and you can order them on-line. That is what I do as this town lacks on good bird food as well. Always remember to feed them a lot of vegetables and fruit (non citrus). Be sure everything is washed well and fruit is peeled. With Quakers it takes patience and time to get them to adjust but as you will read in this forum many people have done it and it is all the better for your Quaker.
So good luck Otey... I hope it works out for you.
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Post by aaron on Oct 6, 2016 22:48:12 GMT -5
I've read that vitamin supplements are of nebulous value, so I've never really investigated them. Julianna has given you good advice here...
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Post by oteyspeople on Oct 17, 2016 17:11:38 GMT -5
Thank you both for your advice. I thought I should post an update as well as a fuller explanation of what's going on with Lovey.
First off, I opted for the Oasis MultiVitamin drops for the water bottles. Prepared as directed, & surprise, surprise, BOTH quakers jumped on the bottle & started slurping it down. I'm going to assume it's fruit flavored. Very glad I could take their open water dish out as it was used for bathing. Neither of them ever seemed interested in "dunking" their dry food as they have a separate dish for wet foods.
As for the oatmeal, Otey refuses to eat it unless it's prepared the way I stipulated. Yes, I know about the lactose intolerant thing, but he's been eating it this way for over 5 years now with no ill effects. I've tried him on plain oats, flavored instant oats, no salt oats, & the result is throwing the contents, then the dish, & a lot of quaker cussing. Not worth it for the tiny amount of butter & cream.
The quakers have a pretty varied diet. Whatever the people are eating looks tempting. I've tried the "yummy" pellet trick, but he didn't fall for it. Even mixed some with his oatmeal but he just picked them out & threw them on the floor. I may try again as his cagemate, Aldo, seems a bit more adventurous when it comes to food. Otey loves to steal whatever Aldo has anyway.
Aldo asks for banana & grapes, & loves raw broccoli & lettuce. Otey has started to eat his green veg plain as well. He still has a penchant for the Knorr Steak Fajita side dish. They both enjoy runny eggs, but won't eat toast crusts unless well buttered.
Now for Lovey: I should explain that none of her eggs ever hatch. Her designated mate, Ollie, more than diligently makes an effort, but at this point, we're pretty sure he's shooting blanks. I don't think separating her from the boys will make any difference as she was laying eggs before we ever adopted the boys. Had she & Ollie ever hatched any eggs, I'm sure she wouldn't be laying them by the dozen. She is extremely stubborn so we're sort of stuck with beefing up the nutrition. And no, she won't eat runny eggs or anything fresh. Won't touch the stuff. That's another reason I was asking about vitamins. As for the calcium, she now has both a cuttlebone & the pineapple mineral block.
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Post by biteybird on Oct 18, 2016 2:14:40 GMT -5
This is really interesting reading - I'd never thought about giving a vitamin supplement to Bonnie, but I suppose if she ever laid an egg I'd consider it. I didn't pipe up before this because I know NOTHING about such matters.
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Post by julianna on Oct 19, 2016 13:20:00 GMT -5
I just have one question if I may. When the eggs are laid do you let her sit on them until she gives up or do you remove them as she lays them?
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