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Post by Hannah on Sept 15, 2016 18:58:55 GMT -5
Sometimes Ollie will unshelled seeds and throw them at me and say "Yummy yummy" and he'll stare at me till I pretend to eat some. I find it cute, but is it good behaviour? If it's bad how do I not encourage it?
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Post by easttex on Sept 16, 2016 4:02:23 GMT -5
I think it's very sweet behavior. He seems to be mimicking you, and is trying to take care of you. While it is mate behavior, and I would always be watchful for more problematic signs, by itself it seems pretty innocuous to me and I would just enjoy it.
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Post by biteybird on Sept 16, 2016 5:41:05 GMT -5
Ollie sounds adorable! I would find that behaviour very cute, too.
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Post by beccilouise on Sept 16, 2016 6:53:26 GMT -5
Hahaha, this is too sweet! What a little cutie. I think whether or not this behaviour is good or bad is up to you. If it doesn't bother you, there's no reason to discourage it. If it does annoy you, the best thing to do is ignore it and reward for something else, or distract him with a toy. The difficulty may come if you encourage it to begin with and then suddenly ignore it, little Ollie may wonder what's going on! Quakers seem to like consistent responses to things, so really it's up to you whether or not you encourage or discourage this behaviour. Personally, I think it's quite adorable EDIT: if this develops into regurgitation, that would be something to discourage. Maya has regurgitated food for me before. It's usually egg, which I don't give her very often, but when she does it, I remove her from my shoulder and put her on her stand, waving a toy in her face. This normally stops it, and she hasn't done it for about six months now.
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Post by aaron on Sept 16, 2016 10:34:33 GMT -5
Totally cute. I love that. I think the others have given you spot-on advice.
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Post by julianna on Sept 16, 2016 13:29:16 GMT -5
Is this the first time Ollie has thrown food?? Lucky you... ha ha ha... Oscar flicks food everywhere and sure knows how to make a mess. I don't discourage him because I think this is the normal way they eat. They will always drop food but that does not necessarily mean they don't like it... it could be that they are saving it for later.
When spaghetti goes flying... it is definitely saving it for later... lol
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Post by Hannah on Sept 17, 2016 0:33:06 GMT -5
He's thrown it before, but it wasn't till he was more attached to me that he started throwing it and saying yummy yummy. The 1st 2 months were just him eating and not throwing unless if he didn't like something. He hasn't regurgitated but he gives kisses and today groomed my hair through the bars.
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Post by beccilouise on Sept 17, 2016 6:03:58 GMT -5
That's very cute and all sounds very normal. Maya preens my hair and eyebrows, she also gives kisses and a couple of times, when I've fallen asleep on the sofa after a long day, she's arranged her foraging toys in a nest around my head and tucked tissues under my cheek. The affection is good and means you're building a positive relationship. I would suggest trying to keep him as socialised as possible though, taking him out (safely in a harness or carry cage) and encouraging him to meet and interact with new people, as this will prevent him from becoming to clingy and domineering in the future. Maya is getting used to her aviator birdie harness and enjoys outings with me. She still chews on it enthusiastically but the chewing is getting less and she's more interested in meeting people. The other day she allowed about five children to stroke her wing feathers (under supervision, obviously!) but harness training her has taken nearly a year as the others will testify, I've been working at it since January! I'm really only succeeding out of sheer bloody mindedness, a great deal of patience and a determination that it is possible. So a pak'o bird is a much easier solution to the problem of birdie outings with your little one! He sounds like a sweetheart though
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Post by Hannah on Sept 17, 2016 7:59:25 GMT -5
He isn't tame just yet, I'm still working on it, this morning when I woke him up he started booking his head & regurgitated, I was so scared he threw up since he wasn't feeling well yesterday (blood feather) and I gave him egg and he tried to feed me whites.
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Post by julianna on Sept 18, 2016 14:07:03 GMT -5
For them to feed you only means they have bonded with you. You should try to discourage the regurgitating when you see it. You don't want the little guy to think you are his mate... only his partner.
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Post by beccilouise on Sept 18, 2016 18:06:00 GMT -5
Hahaha, bless him! Regurgitation looks very different from sickness. Regurgitating birds will Bob their heads and look like they are actively trying to bring up food, where has sickness may involve shaking, narrowing of the eyes and unsteadiness on the perch (according to my vet, I've never seen it!)
My vet did say it was best to discourage regurgitation though, egg sets Maya off too. I replace her on her perch and distract her with a toy until she forgets about it. Discouraging this behaviour hasn't damaged our relationship at all, in fact I think we are 'friends' rather than 'mates', which the vet says is healthy as it will mean Maya is less likely to become aggressive towards other people around me, and stay a more social bird. Maya is still a young bird, though, and has plenty of adolescence to get through, so I'm by no means an expert and it's always worth consulting a vet about these things if you are worried or unsure how to tackle a behaviour. I email my vet regularly and he's very good at giving me advice. Building up a relationship like that with an avian vet always helps with peace of mind.
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Post by aaron on Sept 18, 2016 18:06:20 GMT -5
When you see them begin regurgitating behavior it is good to have a distraction tactic... you don't want to react too emphatically, but you definitely want to take their mind off of what they are doing. It is a sign of bonding, as Julianna says, but not the kind of bonding you want to encourage. A vomiting bird will often end up with saliva-like juices on the top of their head or sides of their face, because they are often disturbed by the experience and shake their heads trying to get the vomit out. You won't see this with regurgitation. The one time Cupcake threw up, this was the case.
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Post by Hannah on Sept 19, 2016 12:09:54 GMT -5
He bobbed his head and before made kissy sounds before regurgitating, I went kiss kiss thinking he wanted a kiss.
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