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Post by nizzeh on Aug 9, 2016 12:05:57 GMT -5
Hi there,
Got my quaker about a week and a half ago and she seems to be settling in fine. She's actively coming out her cage when I open the door and flying around. I can't get her to sit still to teach her things as she usually flys away or when I try to get her to "Step Up" she basically sits down and doesn't let me. She's happy to eat from my fingers and reluctantly lets me touch her. She seems more responsive to my mum and dad than me although I'm with her 90% of the time.
What can I do to a) make sure she knows her name and b) get more used to me and/or step up?
Thanks.
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Post by easttex on Aug 9, 2016 15:35:10 GMT -5
It could be that Iris just needs some time to learn to trust you. Her age and history could be a factor, but most parrots need some time to observe their new environment and flock. Some need a lot of time. If your parents are not making any demands on her, that could be why she seems to respond to them better. Patience is the key with parrots. The link in the first post to this thread might be helpful to you: quakerparrotforum.com/thread/429/good-read-rescuesAs for learning her name, it's a matter of repetition. Use it when giving her something good, and she'll get it. My advice is to give her some more time to observe and get used to you. Give her lots of healthy treats, and be calm and positive. I would probably not let her out of her cage a whole lot for now. You don't want to establish flying away from you as a habit. Let her get to know you as you go about your routine, or while sitting next to her cage and talking or reading to her, or whatever. When you think she's ready, let her come out of her cage, and take her somewhere that will be new to her, like a spare bedroom or a bathroom. Have it already set up for training, with a T-stand or a perch, or whatever you use, and lots of treats. Don't start by thinking "I'm going to teach her to step up." Break it down into tiny increments, start at the beginning, reward lavishly, and don't go to the next step until she has mastered the earlier one. Go only a few minutes at a time, but you can have multiple sessions in a day. Don't get discouraged if you have to teach a step over and over. Always be upbeat with her so she will learn to look forward to training. It's a great way to bond with a parrot.
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Post by nizzeh on Aug 9, 2016 16:15:46 GMT -5
Thank you for the advice, she's only 4 months old and was brought up by had by the breeder. I feel like I'm hurting her or being bad to her if I don't let her out the cage which is why she's out every day.
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Post by beccilouise on Aug 11, 2016 6:52:39 GMT -5
Hi nizzeh, Iris looks adorable in her photo! Easttex's advice is really good. Bear in mind that quakers can take up to two or three weeks to settle into their new homes, and birds (like all animals) will feel more comfortable around people that are comfortable with them. Do you still find yourself a bit nervous or worried when you handle Iris? If so, this could explain her nervousness around you. The most important thing is that the bird learns that hands are trustworthy. So I agree whole heartedly with Easttex, let her come to you. Establishing a strong training routine can also help; teach Iris to step up in small segments. Maya is clicker trained and it has worked wonders. There's a really good book called 'Clicker Training for Birds' and I also learned a lot from Rebecca O'connor's 'The Perfectly Trained Parrot', which contains a segment on teaching birds to step up.
If she moves towards your hand, reward her, if she puts a foot on your hand, reward her, and eventually, she will learn that stepping onto your hand is a positive thing because she gets a) treats and b) affection. Eventually stepping up will be its own reward.
Patience and compassion are key here. From a bird's perspective, it is surrounded by huge alien creatures with bony tentacles that keep poking and prodding it. The aliens are really strong and seem to control everything, so it is natural for a bird to be a little nervous of new hands. Being out of her cage, or having the option to exit her cage, will be really important and you are doing the right thing. When I first brought Maya home, I opened her cage, sat in a chair beside her and read to her. It didn't take long for her to climb out of her cage to come and see what I was doing, and we still sit in our chair, Maya on shoulder, at the end of the day and read a story sometimes. It sounds a little ridiculous, but the rhythmic tone of my voice taught her that the sight and sound of me is safe and she can trust me. Try some of these tactics before you move straight into stepping up. Good luck!
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Post by nizzeh on Aug 12, 2016 14:23:10 GMT -5
Hi, thanks for the advice. Hadn't let her out her cage for two days just so she wasn't getting too used to it. Let her out, and she started bobbing her head and (not biting) but I assume she was grooming me. Later on she landed on my head a few times and my arm once. Progress is definitely being made. Absolutely love her
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Post by easttex on Aug 12, 2016 18:48:07 GMT -5
That's one of their strategies: you fall head over heels before they start giving you trouble.
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Post by pidgesmum on Feb 6, 2017 21:55:52 GMT -5
When I got Pidge I ended up contacting the breeder because he was totally oblivious to the idea. Don't panic. He got the hang of it and now is always saying UP to me.
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Post by jenwade on Feb 9, 2017 9:06:48 GMT -5
When I got Lady, she was already trained to step up, so that wasn't an issue with me. But Lady was stick trained, and that has been wonderful! Quakers tend to be very territorial of their cages, so I never put her back in her cage with my hand. I always use her stick. She just seems to prefer it and it is much safer for my hands as well. I never have to use it to get her out, as I just have to open the door and she climbs out on her own. But there have been times when I need to move her from her cage top and she doesn't want to move. Having her stick trained has kept me from being bit several times in that situation. I don't have to use the stick when she is away from her cage, but I always use it when she is on her cage or going back into it. The stick is really no bigger than a perch and you teach the bird to step up onto it just like you would your hand. From there, the bird can come to you or wherever else it may need to go. But, in other areas of working with Iris, just giving her time to adjust is the key. Sit next to her cage and talk to her quietly to gain her trust. That will go far. Make sure that you are calm when you are handling her too. Sometimes I will "ignore" lady and just let her simply walk on me at her leisure. She loves to sit on my knee while I am working on the computer. She thinks I am doing other things, but really, we will share sounds and looks and she will get treats from me as we are doing this. And she loves the attention, even though we are just sitting quietly and she is doing her thing. Iris will learn. And she will learn quickly, once she gains that trust.
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