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Post by biteybird on Feb 9, 2015 2:14:28 GMT -5
Bonnie bit me once when I was holding her, because she got a fright (I stumbled and bumped her head slightly on the door frame). So perhaps something you don't know about has scared him. The other thing might be the time of day - is it always in the afternoon? It's probably hard to backtrack and remember, especially if you say he hasn't done this in a while. Bonnie gets a lot nippier when she's ready for bed.
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Post by siobhan on Feb 9, 2015 12:11:58 GMT -5
He was fine yesterday, for the most part. I think something startled him, or he was mad because he wanted my attention and wasn't getting enough to suit him, and had to punish me.
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Post by beekersmom on Feb 11, 2015 23:42:21 GMT -5
I don't mean to totally scare everyone, but last Thanksgiving I received a very nasty "gift". I had Beeker on my finger and was giving him kisses, and something freaked him out. He grabbed hold of my lower lip and would not let go, and proceeded to grind his beek until he completely removed a rather large chunk. You would think that after 22 years together he would have no urge to hurt me like that (I believe he thinks I am his mate). I'm just trying to say, be careful about having them around your face, no matter how much you think you trust them...
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Post by aaron on Feb 12, 2015 1:01:48 GMT -5
That's definitely a scary story, beekersmom... but I appreciate you sharing it. I'm sorry for any suffering you endured as a result.. I imagine that must have been fairly traumatic. We all like to think this kind of thing won't happen to us, but it's always a possibility with those beaks. Just like any creature, behavior isn't always predictable and can sometimes go awry. I will be more cautious having read this.
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Post by easttex on Feb 12, 2015 5:15:43 GMT -5
I generally don't let my birds on my shoulders anymore. In our months together Peppy has gone from some pretty serious biting to where he gives more gentle warnings, but when a bird is startled all bets are off. I've had the pleasure of one of those grinding, grinding bites from my grey. My thumb bears a nice scar from it. My face is hardly my fortune, but I don't need that kind of mark on it. Having a chunk of your lip taken must have made life difficult for a while.
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Post by msdani1981 on Feb 12, 2015 13:27:52 GMT -5
Considering how sweet and good-natured our birds are most of the time, it's hard to remember that they really are not domesticated animals. They still have all of their wild instincts.
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Post by aaron on Feb 12, 2015 13:57:22 GMT -5
I generally don't let my birds on my shoulders anymore. In our months together Peppy has gone from some pretty serious biting to where he gives more gentle warnings, but when a bird is startled all bets are off. I've had the pleasure of one of those grinding, grinding bites from my grey. My thumb bears a nice scar from it. My face is hardly my fortune, but I don't need that kind of mark on it. Having a chunk of your lip taken must have made life difficult for a while. See, the idea of not letting Cupcake sit on our shoulders any more really is sad to me, and I've been really trying to figure out if this is something we need to change or not. I certainly don't want her anywhere near my step-daughter's face. She really loves to ride around on our shoulders as we do things during the day and I can't imagine taking that away... As a flighted bird in a household of four people, her favorite thing is to fly between everyone's shoulders to see what we are all doing... but at the same time, the risks are very tangible-- this was something I grappled with even before this particular discussion, but this has brought it back to the forefront of my mind. I admit, I have fairly long (almost shoulder length) curly thick hair, and it kind of drives me nuts -- and as a male in the corporate world I am not always thrilled with the image it projects from a professionalism standpoint... but one of the main reasons I don't consider cutting it is because of the shield it provides from the bird.
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Post by Jan and Shah on Feb 12, 2015 15:40:32 GMT -5
Aaron, I learned to do things one handed so I could carry Shah around on my other hand. However, lately I have popped him on my shoulder as I occasionally need 2 hands (plus I needed to spend more time with him after the mutilating incident). He has been a perfect gentleman (which is very unusual for him). Dont let Cupcake ride on your stepdaughter's shoulder - pop her onto your stepdaughter's hand instead. I do have a certain amount of trust in Shah as he preens my eyelashes every morning to make sure I look good for work. Plus he removes any unsightly blemishes from my face. He saves me the cost of a beautician. And he smothers my face in kisses every night which is delightful - he even makes the kissing sounds to go with it. I know Shah has those wild instincts, however, I trust him near my face - it is my hands that are always the target (got 3 bites this morning for trying to clean food off his beak). I think you have to assess your bird and what it is capable of doing and make sure you are safe from the biting end. Most importantly, you need to know what sort of mood your bird is in - if she is grouchy dont put her anywhere near your face.
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Post by siobhan on Feb 12, 2015 15:43:16 GMT -5
I have a scar on my upper lip from where Maggie tried to land on my head, lost her grip and slid down my face. My glasses kept her from getting my eyes. She didn't mean to do this in the least, it was entirely an accident and bad aim. Clyde and Freddie have both bit me on the lip and it was sore for a few days but I don't stop anyone from sitting on my shoulder (though I turn my head on those rare occasions when Jade lands on my shoulder, LOL).
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Post by aaron on Feb 12, 2015 17:37:55 GMT -5
Thanks Jan... I definitely don't plan on allowing Cupcake to sit on step-daughter's shoulder going forward... Luckily that isn't much of a change because generally speaking she doesn't do that, but lately they had been becoming a bit closer so we will have to put some preventative measures into practice.
Cupcake will nip, but it is generally pretty controlled. We've only had a few that broke the skin over the years and even those were pretty minor wounds. Generally, I do trust her near my face, but it does sound like when something startles them there is a possibility that they will fully lose their sensibilities and just lash out, even in the case of the most trustworthy bird.
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Post by msdani1981 on Feb 12, 2015 17:50:04 GMT -5
Chewy has never been allowed on Zach's shoulder, because he is unpredictable. The one thing we do know is that Zach wouldn't have any facial hair if Chewy was allowed on his shoulder, as Chewy's favorite activity when on Papa is to pluck it. LOL
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Post by julianna on Feb 16, 2015 14:50:35 GMT -5
Oscar is the same as Chewy.... and loves to pluck the hair off my face. LOL I have learned with Oscar on my right should I must use my left hand to do everything with... and if he is on my left shoulder... I must use my right hand to work with. This has worked out very well for us. It seems that anything in my hands is a type of threat to him... even if it is food... but if I change hands.. it is farther away from him and not as threating.
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