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Post by bobjoy on Aug 10, 2017 1:07:43 GMT -5
Hello all,
I'm completely new to all of this - 15+ years in IT field & I never did any forum's, Now I'm new to the bird life & I am, maybe We are in over our heads.
I am Bob, wife is Joy & she wanted to rescue a QP from her mother who rescued it from a widow, QP's her name is "Suezoo" is is around 20 years old. Now the problem is while we were looking, gathering & buying items for said Suezoo we came across a lovely YN, his name is "Yoda" he's 16 years old.
Now it was Yoda's first day of his new lonely life, but as soon as I walked by him he adopted me immediately, which was really weird for everyone, especially me. I had never handle any bird, (I'm 61). Well we put a hold on him & returned the next day to see & make sure that it wasn't a fluke. So we rescue him that day bring him home & start working on training me. Mostly all good for a couple of weeks except one main thing. I had discovered the Yoda HATES the little squeaky thing that the dogs always ripe out of their toys. I usually keep one around because it gets the Doberman's attention when all else fails (very rare).
Ok, fast forward almost 2 months later & off to Mom's for rescue #2 Suezoo who by the way I also know absolutely nothing about, just that she is a QP that makes a lot of noise that was not appreciated by all members of the house. So at this point I''m guessing that most of you folks know where I'm going with this. I don't know if all QP's have the same vocal sounds, or to what degree they chirp, this little girl sound a whole lot like a squeaky toy & if she's not being held she can just go on & on forever.
Long story finally coming to an end - Yoda has now completely turned on Joy & myself, mostly me. Refuses to step up & is in a constant state of aggression, Suezoo is stressed with all that's just changed, but is perfectly fine if I'm holding her close to my heart, which of course I have to do in another room because Yoda doesn't miss a thing. We are trying to spend time with Yoda, but he won't let us near him. Other than giving him a shower today I am running out of ideas.
What I will say is that I'm not going to give up on either one of them.
Thanks for reading.
Bob
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Post by biteybird on Aug 10, 2017 4:49:53 GMT -5
Hi Bob & Joy, welcome to the Forum.  What an awkward situation for all of you...sorry to hear the birds and you are so stressed. I have no experience with this, but there are many experienced Forum members who will, no doubt, offer you some advice when they read this. I just wanted to say you are both wonderful for adopting these two birds and I admire you for wanting the best for them and not giving up on them. There are lots of really good threads & posts on this forum that cover this sort of thing, if you have the time to look through them and read a bit (you can also select the 'search' field and type in a keyword). Hope you find some answers and please let us know how you go. |
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Post by easttex on Aug 10, 2017 13:16:09 GMT -5
I too appreciate reading that you're committed to solving the issues instead of trying to rehome your bird. The timeline is not completely clear to me, but I'm going to assume that Yoda's aggression started with Suezoo's arrival. Parrots can be very sensitive creatures, and it's not hard to lose their trust. To start, a link that gives a good overview of parrot biting and a good intro to their behavior. It helps to try to view things from their perspectives, at least to the best of our knowledge. www.stfrancisanimalandbird.com/index.php/pet-resources/library/9-avian-care/84-my-parrot-bites-what-can-i-doI'd suggest that you wipe the slate clean and start over with Yoda. Maybe you can temporarily relocate Suezoo in another part of your house. Treat Yoda like you've just brought him home. Let him watch you going about your routine. Sit near him and talk gently, but don't try to interact closely. Do give him treats when he seems to be responding appropriately to your presence. Gradually get more interactive with him, but don't push him. He needs to know you respect his wishes. When you're both ready, start working on training. It will help rebuild your bond. If all goes well, you can reintroduce Suezoo. Try to reassure Yoda that he's still #1 (even if he really isn't 🙂). Give him precedence when it comes to feeding, treats, etc. Good luck! I hope this helps. |
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Post by bobjoy on Aug 11, 2017 14:11:04 GMT -5
Thanks folks for your info, links & support. Little update: yesterday was a good Yoda day because it was cage cleaning time & with the good weather we roll the the entire cage outside, took my time & spent a couple of hours with him one on one, Yoda stepped up & sat with me for about 3 hours even though 75% of the time was up on my shoulder there was no biting, all was good until I brought him back inside. I guess I have to figure out a way to do a slower meet & greet introduction, even though I know that once Suezoo starts her squeaky toy squawk Yoda will go crazy.
On the other hand we have started learning all we can about Suezoo's bread which has lead to trying to teach Suezoo different sounds & words, now I need to try the interactive game play which I had no idea that QP's are capable of, really cool stuff. Thanks again.
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Post by easttex on Aug 11, 2017 14:38:18 GMT -5
I meant to say something about the Quaker noise. Maybe even more than most parrots, Quakers are very social birds. What you're hearing is probably her contact call. She's trying to stay in touch with her flock (you). It's not something you can likely extinguish, but you can try giving her some alternative calls. For example, if she whistles, respond to her with a similar whistle. Give her attention or a treat, but do it right away so she'll start connecting the whistle to getting something good from you. If she's a talker, you can use a word in the same way. Just be lavish with whatever reward works with her. |
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Post by siobhan on Aug 22, 2017 12:09:07 GMT -5
Since we got a cockatoo, the other birds can be raising the roof and I hardly notice because all of them together can't reach Rocky's decibels alone. That being said, the thing with Quakers is they want an answer. When Suzezoo calls, call back. Come up with a word or phrase that you use every time. Ours is the first few notes of Beethoven's Fifth. When the Quakers squawk, I whistle. They whistle. They know I'm near and that's what they wanted to know. (this does not work on cockatoos) Yoda's behavior sounds exactly like jealousy. He was an only bird and suddenly he wasn't. He's mad about it. Parrots are very much like toddlers. They want what they want when they want it and that's NOW. Try spending one-on-one time with him every day. You might get some bites. You have to put up with some bites until he gets used to the new way of things. Never pass him without stopping, even briefly, for a hello and head scratch. Always greet him first (he was there first, he's Top Bird). Feed him first. Play with him first. He's first in everything except bedtime and he goes to bed last. That's how being Top Bird works in the parrot world. Suezoo will understand. Try to stick to a schedule. He always gets play time before supper, or breakfast, or whenever, and you're consistent. Parrots LOVE consistent.
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Post by bobjoy on Aug 28, 2017 12:19:51 GMT -5
Sounds like you have hit the nail on the head with this one. So now after being torn up by Yoda several times as of late, we almost feel as though he is bi-polar. And now its been hard for me to give him any attention unfortunately because he just lunges at me when I go towards his cage, Joy is still able to give him some attention & the occasional head rub, but his new thing is to tear up everything in his cage which he never did before, never played or anything, now the food bowls aren't even safe on certain days. During the first couple days of solitude between him & I, I even stayed away from Suezoo so that I didn't upset him, but I couldn't let him run the house & allow Suezoo to suffer, so she still gets time & now I'm ready to start back up with Yoda, I just have to find away (remember) to go very slow with him. I say this because the last 2 attacks he basically set me up by putting up a 1 foot, latching it on my finger then tearing into same said finger 5 to 6 times before stepping off & then lunging & hissing at me. On the flip side I have learned not to pull away, or make any sounds, I just walk away & start performing first aid. Also I now find it funny if Suezoo does any biting.
Thanks for the advice, Bob.
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