mike
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May 22, 2016 16:44:43 GMT -5
Post by mike on May 22, 2016 16:44:43 GMT -5
My Quaker is 8 and we bought he/she from a breeder and was told it was a male and now there are two eggs on the bottom of the cage and only one bird in the cage. How did this happen?
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Post by beccilouise on May 22, 2016 17:06:54 GMT -5
The breeder lied or did not know what they were talking about is how this happened! Hello and welcome, Mike. If there was one bird in the cage and two eggs on the floor, your bird is a girl. Many female parrots lay infertile eggs, a little like chickens. The best advice is, during the breeding season, to feed her lots of protein rich foods like hard boiled eggs and sprouted seeds and beans, and to make sure she has a ready supply of calcium. This can be provided in a calcium block, in ground oyster shells (often sold at pet shops) or using a calcium supplement, such as calcivet. The best way to provide calcium, though, is through leafy greens such as spinach and dandelion leaves. Keep an eye out for egg binding in the bird; if she is straining, having trouble sitting on her perch, panting and drooping or wondering around on the bottom of the cage consistently for a long period of time, take her to the vet. I've also been told that allowing female birds to bathe in lukewarm water helps to lower the risk of egg binding, but I'm sceptical about how true this is. Protein and calcium, however, are absolutely crucial. Congratulations, it's a girl!
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mike
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May 23, 2016 12:04:47 GMT -5
Post by mike on May 23, 2016 12:04:47 GMT -5
My daughter is a Vet Tech and works at an ER Animal Hospital. She has told me to remove the eggs. I live in Biloxi, MS and today I will be seeking a Vet who or a breeder who can assist me through this. Thanks for you info and I wasn't sure if I would even get an answer.
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Post by easttex on May 23, 2016 12:29:56 GMT -5
Hi Mike. You'd actually do better to leave the eggs until she loses interest. I made the mistake of removing them from my grey's cage the first time, and she just replaced them. She will lose interest. You might pass that on to your daughter.
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mike
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May 23, 2016 14:29:35 GMT -5
Post by mike on May 23, 2016 14:29:35 GMT -5
I guess Tony will have a name change to Toni now. He/she is staying on the eggs. Yesterday I placed a very soft bath cloth in the bottom of the cage because the eggs were just on the bottom metal of the cage. Now Toni sits on the eggs. The cage has always been open, except when bad or company came over. Is there any special foods I need to put out?
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Post by easttex on May 23, 2016 14:58:57 GMT -5
That will be an easy name change. The best thing for her is an all-around good diet. If she's on a good pellet supplemented by veggies, she's will probably get what she needs. You can offer her extra calcium, but I wouldn't try to make her take any. An avian vet will give you the best direction on supplements. I was advised by an avian vet this year to cut back a little on protein as the breeding season begins. Nothing extreme. I switched to a lower protein version of the regular pellet, which took it from something like 18% to 15%. Lots of protein is one of the signals that it's a good year to feed babies. You can switch back after she comes out of her broody period. Just one of the little things you can do to discourage her from laying in the future.
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Post by Jan and Shah on May 23, 2016 16:18:13 GMT -5
I agree with Easttex. I had a cockatiel that was laying eggs and if I removed them, she would keep laying. This isn't good for the bird. Let her sit on them - they wont hatch and she will eventually lose interest. I get a liquid calcium supplement from my vet which can be put in the water so speak to your avian vet about it.
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Post by siobhan on May 23, 2016 16:42:30 GMT -5
If my female tiel and pigeon were any indication, it takes about three or four days for the potential mama to get bored and give up, though Greta (the tiel) was a lot more stubborn and would sometimes sit on infertile eggs for days and days. I never took them away until she gave up on her own because, as other people said, she'd just lay more, and that's very hard on their little bodies.
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mike
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May 23, 2016 16:55:34 GMT -5
Post by mike on May 23, 2016 16:55:34 GMT -5
I do not have a Vet here so I guess I could order the liquid calcium supplement from Drs. Foster and Smith catalog. And I hope when the mood swing changes from an egg sitter back to being Toni's regular self is not too long of a way.
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May 23, 2016 18:16:09 GMT -5
Post by easttex on May 23, 2016 18:16:09 GMT -5
I wouldn't add anything to her water. It can discourage them from drinking. If you do add it, make sure she is actually drinking it, and if she isn't, replace it with fresh water. You can give her a little dish of oyster shell or a calcium block, and let her decide if she needs a supplement.
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May 23, 2016 19:45:20 GMT -5
Post by Jan and Shah on May 23, 2016 19:45:20 GMT -5
I have never had a problem with my birds drinking the calcium liquid - in fact, they still have it in their water twice a week as they are on an immune boosting regime due to recent problems. However, my vet produces his own calcium liquid so it may be different to other brands. You can try her on a calcium block or the oyster shell (as Easttex has suggested) and see how she goes.
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May 24, 2016 2:39:41 GMT -5
Post by beccilouise on May 24, 2016 2:39:41 GMT -5
Maya drinks the calcium liquid as well, but I am very careful to replace her water every day so that it doesn't become dangerous. Maya is also happy to chew on oyster shells when she needs it. She has a calcium block but rarely uses it. I don't know if others might have different opinions, but my vet said to me that I should only give supplements during the breeding season, the rest of the time, I should make the calcium available, but not worry too much if she doesn't take it. There is a little bit of calcium provided in her pellets, so I know she's always getting some, and I can offer more during the breeding season if she needs it. Also, Calcivet is a pretty good supplement, my vet recommended it to me, and it should be commercially available.
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May 24, 2016 12:50:55 GMT -5
Post by julianna on May 24, 2016 12:50:55 GMT -5
Hello Mike and Toni. I won't add to the needs of her diet as the advice you have been given is very good. I... like you... do not have access to a vet and this is why this forum is very important to me. Of course they could never replace the assistance of a vet however, I have always been given great advice. Please feel free to ask any other questions that you might have.
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mike
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May 25, 2016 14:09:22 GMT -5
Post by mike on May 25, 2016 14:09:22 GMT -5
Okay I am back and was just checking what was written. I ordered a powder calcium supplement to sprinkle lightly on the food. I have never used the pellets. I'm not familiar with oyster shell other than eating the oysters myself. Is it called oyster shell ? And Toni is still a sitter. The cage has always been open except when company would ocme or if Toni was bad. She does come out sometimes but does not stay out long. Very protective as to when I walk in front of the cage going to the bathroom. She will fly out and try to bite or peck at me. So glad there is another walkway in this house other than that one.
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May 25, 2016 14:35:32 GMT -5
Post by julianna on May 25, 2016 14:35:32 GMT -5
That is a normal reaction to protect her cage Mike. These little guys can become very protective of their homes and food and it just takes a lot of time and patience to get around this. One thing for sure is that when you approach the cage, speak softly and reassure her that everything is okay. My Oscar will try to snap at me but once I put my hand close to his face he will nibble it. I found actually that he would prefer that I put my face close to him and let him groom me to reassure himself that I am Okay. In Canada... the oyster shell is called the oyster shell. Oscar did not want anything to do with it... but that is okay... he has other ways of getting his vitamins. Pellets are very important for these birds as they are filled with nutrients that are essential for the bird. They are many brands out there and I use Harrisons High Potency. I had to wean my QP off of seeds (even though those were his favorite) and now I feed him 90% pellets and 10% seeds. (of course besides all of the fresh fruit and vegetables.) Every now and again he gets small pieces of whole wheat bread and the odd cracker. Hope this helps.
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